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  • Hidden in the ineligible section for now. No replacement yet. --PFHLai (talk) 18:01, 22 October 2020 (UTC)

Day-after-tomorrow's OTD

  • Yes, surprisingly lots of cn tags throughout that article. Significant historical event, but I'd lean towards removal per WP:OTDRULES. ~Swarm~ {sting} 07:18, 22 October 2020 (UTC)
  • Nedelin catastrophe - our blurb says it killed "at least 90 people", the lead of the article says it killed "an unknown number of military and technical personnel", the infobox says "78 (92-126 from other sources)" but I can't see a citation for any of those three figures. But, as is often the way with these kinds of articles, a messy inconsistent and non-encyclopedic approach right now. The Rambling Man (Hands! Face! Space!!!!) 07:12, 22 October 2020 (UTC)
Good catch of almost shocking negligence. ®C Sca (talk) 12:16, 22 October 2020 (UTC)
I have added a section on casualties. I have no opinion on the blurb, as the answer seems to be "who knows," but the simplest (albeit least precise) way to change it would be just to say "at least 54 people," since that's the lowest bound of the numbers I found. The Wicked Twisted Road (talk) 17:46, 22 October 2020 (UTC)
I've removed mention of the number of deaths from the blurb for now; once we have a better idea of the death toll, this should be reinstated in the blurb. °™ RAVENPVFF °§ talk °§ 23:03, 22 October 2020 (UTC)

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General discussion

"Nominate an article"

When I saw the words "Nominate an article" I assumed that it might refer to nominating one for featured articles, and I was wondering what that's doing in the news section. So I would like to suggest:

  1. Instead of "Nominate an article" it should say "Nominate a news item".
  2. At the bottom of the featured article section it should say "Nominate an article" linking to Wikipedia:Featured article candidates. -- -- -- 22:41, 15 October 2020 (UTC)
Regarding suggestion 1, I think the wording "an article" is important because ITN is there to direct readers to articles that have been substantially updated to reflect recent or current events of wide interest (taken from WP:ITN). News items themselves are not what is nominated, but instead the article is nominated. I'm unsure of whether a change is needed (as the link is in the "in the news" section and is directly below the current articles in ITN), but I'm not against changing the wording necessarily. I also think "news item" could be improved to a better wording (I would say something which says that you are nominating an article not a news event).
Regarding suggestion 2, I don't have any objection to adding a link, but perhaps its best that it goes to WP:TFA/R instead of WP:FAC as FAC isn't where featured articles are nominated to be a TFA. Dreamy Jazz talk to me | my contributions 23:02, 15 October 2020 (UTC)
'Nominate a Featured Article' then. If it's necessary and desirable. Not certain it is. The people experienced enough to find an eligible featured article and nominate it at TFA/R probably don't need the link.--Wehwalt (talk) 00:01, 16 October 2020 (UTC)
Yeah, that seems better than linking to TFA/R. Agree with your suggestion if a link is desired and necessary. Dreamy Jazz talk to me | my contributions 00:07, 16 October 2020 (UTC)

Wrong display of the title of main page

I found the title of main page is wrongly displayed before log in, the hyphen appearing at the beginning of title, just like this: "- Wikipedia", is there anyway to remove the hyphen? --Great Brightstar (talk) 12:57, 16 October 2020 (UTC)

I assume this is talking about the page title (what is displayed on the tab in a browser) on the mobile view: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page (to see how this looks when not logged in, follow the link in an Incognito or Private window). I notice that the French and German mobile sites also do this, so it's possible it's a MediaWiki issue and not something we can directly control here... No doubt someone more in the know will enlighten us further though!  — Amakuru (talk) 13:12, 16 October 2020 (UTC)
Yes, I've seen the problem on Firefox for Android. --Great Brightstar (talk) 15:07, 16 October 2020 (UTC)
I too see this issue when logged out, but not when logged in. Happens in Firefox and Safari. WP:VPT might have a better idea of what's causing it. Modest Genius talk 12:17, 21 October 2020 (UTC)
Hmm, there are probably a few things to look at here -- for one, do we really need "Welcome, %CURRENTUSERNAME%!" injected up there, only on mobile view? Because that is what is ending up on the "tab name" for logged in users as well - I'd think have the tab name just be "Wikipedia" would be more useful, especially with crowded tabs. Before delving in to the technical settings we should be clear about what the actual desired output should be so we don't waste development time. °™ xaosflux Talk 14:49, 21 October 2020 (UTC)
Related, do we really need to inject that "Welcome username" banner in to the page at all on mobile view, it just pushes actual content further down the page. °™ xaosflux Talk 14:50, 21 October 2020 (UTC)
No, that banner's not needed: what's its purpose? And you're correct about its effect: why is it in such a large font? Bazza (talk) 16:45, 21 October 2020 (UTC)
  • I think this may be related to phab:T255682. @OVasileva (WMF) and Jon (WMF): who might be able to clear this up quickly?
    • Two issues: (a) Can this banner be disabled locally, hopefully without a css hack? (b) Is work being done that is causing bad header data to flow up on the page, which then gets consumed by browsers to title their tabs? Neither "Welcome..." or "-..." are really useful tab titles. °™ xaosflux Talk 23:40, 21 October 2020 (UTC)

This is phab:T265892 Jon (WMF) (talk) 17:05, 22 October 2020 (UTC)

Amalthea (bot) which maintains Main Page history is down again

Main Page history has stopped being archived. It is usually created by Amalthea (bot) (which has not edited in 5 days). The bot's owner Amalthea is not very active these days. This is about the fifth time that the bot has gone down in the past year.

ProcrastinatingReader has a bot replacement ready. See Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/ProcBot 3. @Xaosflux: we can email Amalthea again and try to get their attention. However, I think we should just activate ProcBot 3 instead. --- C&C (Coffeeandcrumbs) 17:41, 21 October 2020 (UTC)

Since SPI does not need the bot (see below). We should temporarily block Amalthea (bot) and active ProcBot 3. --- C&C (Coffeeandcrumbs) 17:54, 21 October 2020 (UTC)
FWIW I still have the code for task 3, and am happy to run it, if it is needed. ProcrastinatingReader (talk) 18:46, 21 October 2020 (UTC)
@ProcrastinatingReader: If you tell me when you're ready to begin I will block Amalthea (bot) — Martin (MSGJ °§ talk) 21:24, 22 October 2020 (UTC)
That bot isn't editing, so why would it require a block? °™ xaosflux Talk 22:11, 22 October 2020 (UTC)
MSGJ, I can begin whenever. My task is set to createonly, so if that bot comes back up, my bot just errors on create and should skip (vice versa if I set my creation time to before that bot's), so they shouldn't necessarily collide. I think that bot is down until the operator restarts it, though. I'd appreciate clarification from a BAG member (xaosflux perhaps?) if the old trial from task 3 is valid and if I should begin it, before I start. ProcrastinatingReader (talk) 22:22, 22 October 2020 (UTC)

SPI overview

Amalthea (bot) also maintains Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Cases/Overview which has not been updated in 5 days. This was last discussed at Wikipedia:Bot_requests/Archive_81#Amalthea_(bot) where Majavah said that DeltaQuadBot can do the same task. Courtesy ping AmandaNP. --- C&C (Coffeeandcrumbs) 17:41, 21 October 2020 (UTC)

My bot is always live, and it's already been switched over several days ago. -- Amanda (aka DQ) 17:46, 21 October 2020 (UTC)